Baroness Arminka Heliç

In this post, there is a list of the advanced words and phrases from the BBC Radio 4 Desert Island Discs interview with Sabrina Cohen-Hatton - a firefighter and psychologist.   Aggie and I are currently creating a podcast (in which we will explain some of the words) and it will be launched on 1st Nov!

You can listen to the interview here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00099wv

 INTRO

Lauren Laverne: (00:48) the upper chamber got a sprinkling of star dust

Lauren Laverne: (01:00)    she's credited with persuading him to launch a high profile campaign against rape

Lauren Laverne: (01:13)   simmering tensions erupted in the former Yugoslavia

Lauren Laverne: (01:21)   she fled her Homeland

scarred by what she'd seen

Lauren Laverne: (01:33)    bewildered by London

Lauren Laverne: (01:37)    seduced by politics

 Lauren Laverne: (02:03)   touching down at Heathrow

Lauren Laverne: (02:06)    sworn into the Lord's

Lauren Laverne: (02:53)     you've said in the past that you sometimes suffer from imposter syndrome. 

Arminka Heliç: (03:01)       a feeling of the need to prove that I'm worthy

 

1ST DISC

Arminka Heliç: (04:35)

It's loaded with meaning for me today.

 

COMMUNIST YOUTH ORGANISATION

Arminka Heliç: (05:54)  I was probably one of those very rare ones

Arminka Heliç: (06:22)  "I can't, The party's corrupt."

Arminka Heliç: (06:34)  I wouldn't say shell shock

Arminka Heliç: (06:41)  some people were kind of really working their guts out

2ND DISC

Lauren Laverne: (07:28)          Did you aspire to anything beyond the music?

Lauren Laverne: (07:31)          she had quite a distinctive look 

 Hairstyle - combined beer, soap and hairspray!

 RELIGION

Lauren Laverne: (08:42)          I was brought up to think religion is opium for masses 

 Yugoslav army came and circled the town - blocked radio and TV - rape and kill

 Arminka Heliç: (09:59)  And then a badly injured man from Doboj was sent to deliver a message to [it's my hometown] to surrender

Arminka Heliç: (10:49shelling started 

Lauren Laverne: (11:33)          People …..with scamp possessions

Arminka Heliç: (11:40)  they're humiliated (dragging suitcases)

BEING A REFUGEE IS NOT A CHOICE

Arminka Heliç: (12:10)  75 million displaced 

3RD DISC

Nice memories of having picnics in the hills - parents listening to old songs on the radio

Arminka Heliç: (13:09)  I just was yawning from here to Australia

SLOVENIA

Lauren Laverne: (13:56)          a friend smuggled you and your sister into Slovenia

Arminka Heliç: (14:28) that famous cover, which I still have on my mobile phone from the Time magazine of men behind a barbed wire.

 

COMING TO LONDON

The former wife of the gov minister bought tickets to London for her and her sister

 

Lauren Laverne: (16:43) . It must've been a bit like waking up on the moon, waking up in Chelsea.

 

Arminka Heliç: (18:25) . Haagen Dazs,...... there were 13 flavors of ice cream, 

 Arminka Heliç: (19:02) . and Sir John said to me, completely straight faced "You sound like the communist 

 Lauren Laverne: (19:54)   It sounds like you're having a lot very interesting debates (did a master's degree in international history)

 JOINING THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY

Arminka Heliç: (20:28)  I was privileged to meet her (Thatcher)

WORKING IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS

Lauren Laverne: (21:41)          it was there that you were spotted in the House of Commons library filing press cuttings)

 I think that they, they saw someone who was just happy to have a chance and privileged to be accepted and uh, keen to prove that I have something to give back.

 Lauren Laverne: (22:06) . became William Hague's senior special advisor in 2010

 THE FILM WRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY ANGELINA JOLIE

Arminka Heliç: (23:04)      some of my friends ended up in, uh, in what infamously became known as rape camps. 

Arminka Heliç: (24:19) . And he (Hague) would watch for 10 minutes and then he would give in (they were flying to Australia and she made him watch it)

 

Arminka Heliç: (24:29) . we kind of came to conclusion that we should invite Angelina to show the film in foreign office.

 Arminka Heliç: (24:35) . we decided under William's and her leadership to set up the preventing sexual violence initiative.

 Arminka Heliç: (24:44) . a crime that ought to be punished, not simply swept under the carpet because we are so desperate to have a peace deal.

PSVI held a four day international summit on tackling sexual violence in war in London in 2014. It was hosted by William Hague and Angelina Jolie.

Arminka Heliç: (27:01) . And since then... 156 countries who had adopted the protocol for registering these crimes.

 I think we are marching forward

 Lauren Laverne: (30:11) . You said earlier that you didn't experience survivor's guilt, 

 WHEN BACK IN BOSNIA

Arminka Heliç: (31:09) . First thing, is I walk into my house, breathe in the air, and remember my parents.

 

I reaquire my Bosnian spirit and stubbornness.

 

LAST DISC

Arminka Heliç: (31:59)

I think in essence it's a story about youth growing up under communism,

 

DIY book instead of the Bible

 

GOING TO THE ISLAND

Arminka Heliç: (33:33)

leave a few traces of my experience (would like to take a pen and paper